Council of
Minutes of November 15, 2004
Meeting
At
(Approved)
Morning Session
Call to Order
The Council of Illinois
University Senates meeting was called to order by Illinois State University
Senate Chairperson Lane Crothers at 10:00 a.m.
Present:
Lane Crothers, ISU, Yan Searcy, Chicago State University, Barb Lawrence,
Eastern Illinois University, Allen Shub, Northeastern Illinois University, Paul
Stoddard, Northern Illinois University, James Duggan, Southern Illinois
University-Carbondale, Joel Hardman, Southern Illinois University-Edwardsville,
Gerald Strom, University of Illinois-Chicago, Mary Mallory, University of
Illinois-Urbana/Champaign, Julie Mahoney, Western Illinois University
Absent: Gary
Lyon,
Julie Mahoney, Senate Secretary, WIU, presented the issue of special
admissions that circumvent the regular admissions policies at the university.
These admissions are approved by administrators; however there is no oversight;
the special admissions do not follow the special admissions policies. Professor
Mallory inquired about the admission policies of other universities. Senator
Crothers reported that there were no admissions at ISU that did not go through
the regular admissions policies are the admission policy for special
admissions. Professor Mahoney’s major concern was the fairness and transparency
of the administrative admissions. Professor Crothers suggested that Professor
Mahoney do further investigation and that the other CIUS representatives might
inquire about special admission procedures on their respective campuses.
Mary
Mallory, Senate Vice-Chairperson,
III.
Shared Governance
Yan
Searcy, Senate Chairperson,
IV.
Tenure/Salaries
Prof.
Strom: Faculty have discussed the issue of “partial
tenure” for 50% appointments. They receive half of a tenure credit each year.
Deans like to hire at 75% for nine-month appointments and receive the remaining
25% through grants. The Senate is reviewing the issue.
Prof.
Duggan: Union contracts require a student-teacher ratio that would affect that
policy.
Prof.
Strom: Regarding salary compression, new hires are exceeding current faculty
salaries. We were told that we have to do this because of the market, but if
you are hiring at 75%, where is the market?
V.
MAP Funds to Private Institutions
James
Duggan, Senate President, Southern Illinois University-Carbondale, stated that
he was opposed to the continued distribution of MAP (Monetary Assistant
Program) grants to private institutions. He felt that only public universities
should receive these funds, especially in the light of the current decrease in
state funding of public universities. Professor Crothers noted that the MAP
grants are based on need; however, the calculation of need is based on the cost
of the education sought; thus, private institutions, because of higher
tuitions, currently receive over half of the MAP funds. He also observed that
many private institutions have strong political support and that the argument
against the public funding of these institutions was “unsellable”. Legislative
support for federal funding of only public institutions is in the minority.
Professor Duggan noted that all state representatives have private colleges within
their districts. He added that it would be helpful in lobbying efforts if the
community colleges were also against state funding of private institutions.
Professor Duggan agreed to develop a resolution on the issue for consideration
by the 12 public university senates.
Afternoon
Session
Prof.
Crothers: No dramatic effects at ISU have resulted from the Truth in Tuition
Law. ISU has elected to freeze fees for four years for each year’s
freshman/transfer student class. With low inflation, the Truth in Tuition can work.
There has been no discussion that I am aware this year about tuition caps.
Prof.
Hardman: Students end up on average paying a little more. Students that drop
out after two years are those that are really affected when they re-enter.
Prof.
Duggan: At SIU-Carbondale, faculty don’t want to raise admission standards
and the Senate has gone on record that we do not want to have tuition
increases.
Prof.
Crothers: Even though the government has slashed funds for public universities,
they have increased their mandates for them. Decrease in public funding could
result in loss of tenure-track lines. I don’t believe that the State is still
considering reappropriating the Income Fund (tuition and fees); I believe that
they will leave the control of those funds in the hands of the university. We
do need to continue to monitor the Truth in Tuition Law.
VII.
IBHE Big
Picture Meetings
Prof.
Crothers: Some universities include the Senate chairpersons in the IBHE Big
Picture Meetings. This is a non-issue this year because the meetings have only occurred
in
Prof.
Duggan: It is my understanding that the IBHE doesn’t want representative
attendance; only the attendance of the Chancellor and Provost and, according to
the Provost, they will continue this practice.
Prof.
Strom: Representation is not a problem on our campus.
Prof.
Crothers: Nor at ISU; it really depends on the nature of the institution.
VIII.
Faculty
Productivity Report
Prof.
Crothers: The faculty thought that the Faculty Productivity Report was fine.
However, Kaplan is no longer concerned with faculty productivity.
Prof.
Lawrence: They have dropped the objection to community colleges offering
four-year degrees; it’s no longer even on the radar.
Prof.
Duggan: We talked to our Provost and to Karnes and they reported that the IBHE
will not proceed with this, but community colleges are already doing it by
coordinating with four-year universities.
Prof.
Crothers: It is useful to have the Faculty Productivity Report on file. Perhaps
we should ask all university senates to consider endorsing it.
IX.
“Don’t Ask,
Don’t Tell” Policy
Prof.
Crothers: Most ROTCs don’t have a problem with the “don’t ask-don’t tell
policy”, which is the policy concerning revealing sexual preference in the
armed services. The ROTC, however, is more open than the army.
Prof.
Duggan: If we don’t allow the ROTC’s on campus, the federal government won’t
provide funding to the university. If we take any federal funding, then we have
to allow recruitment.
X.
SURS
Prof.
Crothers: All pension plans are expected to need a great amount of revenue to
reach targets, which is where almost all of any new State money would go. The
State proposes a new funding structure for retirees.
Prof. Duggan: They propose to change investment
strategies and consolidate investments.
Prof.
Crothers: I am not aware of any new activity concerning this issue. Madigan is
objecting to a joint coalition. Typically, the Annuitants Associations on
campuses are most informed about any changes to the pension systems.
XI.
Health
Benefits
Prof.
Crothers: AFSME is the only body that negotiates our health benefits. Have any
strides been made for faculty involvement in these negotiations? Universities
have given up on the return of health benefit funds from the State.
Prof.
Stoddard: The State has backed off on dropping Health Alliance. I am not sure
of status of the Caremark mail order prescription program.
Prof.
Crothers: Communication has not been good on this issue. We don’t know which
pharmacies are participants in the plan.
Prof.
Stoddard: I have heard that Caremark calls physicians to try to talk them out
of the three-month prescriptions. However, I have also heard that doctors have
said that they were not called. There is a concern about putting local
pharmacies out of business. Caremark is not even an
Prof.
Crothers: We can monitor this; we don’t have much information now.
Prof.
Lawrence: The explanation from the State is that it is trying to move toward a
self-insurance model.
Prof.
Crothers: Quality Care is self-insurance; employees pay in and the money left
over is investable.
XII.
State Board
Governing Tenure
Prof.
Crothers: There is a proposal to have a state-level review of university
decisions concerning tenure. It was proposed by a state legislator to “protect”
faculty from local university abuses. All universities are opposed to such a
review. There is no current activity on this issue.
XIII.
Patriot Act
Resolution
Prof.
Crothers: ISU endorsed a Sense of the Senate Resolution concerning the Patriot
Act on November 15, 2004. We also distributed information about data custodians,
who are the individuals responsible for reviewing the requests concerning the
Act and contacting the University Counsel, when appropriate, before releasing any
information.
Prof.
Searcy: Does our library keep past data records?
Prof.
Crothers: I don’t think so. We asked for a university audit on how we have
complied with such requests. We presented our resolution to Academic Senate at
ISU with an attached “Quick Guide” for dealing with the requests, as well as
the revised university policy on the release of confidential information.
Prof.
Duggan: In June, the
Prof.
Stoddard: The Speaker of the House and another state representative came to the
NIU campus recently. We spoke to the representatives about not being enamored
with Karnes. We also raised issues with them about the Secret Service. The
issue arose because of a protest during a recent event at which student
protestors were intercepted by campus police. The students were filmed by
campus police when they rejoined the main area of protest. We are considering a
privacy policy for public activities. Reportedly, the tapes were destroyed, but
we will monitor this to see what happens to the evidence.
Prof.
Strom: We wanted a free speech policy in case the issue comes up so we copied
the MIT policy.
Prof.
Duggan: That policy was rather restrictive until recently.
Prof.
Crothers: We rejected a public policy on free speech because it restricted
speech.
The
council will continue to monitor the issue.
XIV. Vendor Contracts
Prof.
Stoddard: In 1998, we entered into an exclusivity contract for Pepsi products. We
receive reimbursements from Pepsi at certain events and the money goes toward
scholarships. Faculty bemoaned the loss of choice, but recognized the good use
of money. In 2008, we will no longer be able to renew exclusive agreements because
the law now prohibits it
Prof.
Duggan: We have those type of contracts for certain
purchases.
Prof.
Duggan: We can still sign them, but cannot prohibit other vendors from selling
their products at events sponsored by departments.
Prof.
Crothers: We were able to convince vendors to place environmental RFPs into our
vendor contracts.
XV.
Textbook
Issues
Prof.
Searcy: Our bookstore consistently under-orders books. They cut the orders
because they do not want to get stuck with inventory and restocking fees.
Prof.
Crothers: We have two competitive bookstores, The Alamo and Barnes and Nobles,
so they split the orders. Since they are in competition, they don’t want to
annoy their clients by under ordering. There is a university policy that
provides orders to private bookstores. Also, one of our Senate committees has
discussed textbook rentals because of the rising cost of purchasing textbooks.
Prof.
Stoddard: Faculty would have to keep the same book for three years.
Prof.
Duggan: It takes a lot of money to set up.
Prof.
Mahoney: The initial outlay for a program for textbook rentals is approximately
$600,000 to start up. We just can’t afford it.
Prof.
Stoddard: Part of the cost is in the bundled books, books with study guides,
but we don’t have to order the bundles. We need to rethink how we deal with
publishers. It is not as simple as publishers coming out with new editions, but
the fact that when the bookstores buy back, the publishers and writers get
nothing. With a no buy-back policy, maybe publishers would lower the costs.
Prof.
Duggan: That won’t work because the bookstores will still charge what the market
will bear. Also, we can’t have different prices for different states.
Prof.
Hardman: Our primary texts are rental texts. We have a textbook rental fee of
$37 each semester.
We
have also considered buying books in majors—300 to 400 books—so that students
aren’t buying introductory skills books.
Prof.
Duggan: We discontinued it because of the costs involved; student-to-student
peer selling was considered.
Prof.
Searcy: You can actually loose money on it, but it does attract students.
XVI.
Lobbying at
the Capitol
Prof.
Crothers: Our Vice President of Finance and Planning has suggested that we meet
in
Several
CIUS members reported that they had been instructed to never contact an
official in
Prof.
Duggan: Perhaps we should hold a meeting and invite representatives to it or
make appointments to meet in legislative offices.
Prof.
Stoddard: We would need to have an agenda set and questions prepared.
Prof.
Crothers: If we want to talk to legislators at informational meetings, we
should do so when the legislature is not
in session. If we are lobbying, then
we would meet in
Prof.
Stoddard: We have met with several legislators while in session and we could do
this again if we prearrange meetings with legislators.
Prof.
Crothers: This meeting might be on a Friday and then individuals could stay to
lobby on Saturday.
Prof.
Strom: I suggest a Thursday/Friday model.
Prof.
Shub: Should we invite the Governor to the meeting?
Prof.
Crothers: We could invite him.
Prof.
Strom: We could invite state party leaders instead of the Governor.
Prof.
Searcy: Should some of us focus on lobbying and others actively engage with the
senators. We are learning more about the process, but we are not at the stage
where we have an agenda.
Prof.
Mahoney: If we find out how the process works, the Thursday/Friday might work.
If we meet on Thursday and Friday, there might be more independent activity.
The meeting in
Prof.
Crothers: We could set up the meetings through university-governmental
liaisons. Phil Adams is the liaison with the legislature at ISU. At the
introductory meeting to learn about the process on Thursday, we could inform
other CIUS members of our Friday appointments. In summary, we would meet in
Prof.
Stoddard: We would need to invite the liaisons and any other administrative
staff to the lobbying training at the first meeting.
Prof.
Mallory: Students were successful in lobbying through a letter-writing
campaign. They also testified before the legislature. We may want to do this in
a couple of years.
Prof.
Crothers: We need to identify individual(s) who will do the lobbying training. If
you know of people who would be effective and willing to do this, please
contact me to let me know.
Prof.
Strom: The U of I governmental liaison can talk to us.
Prof.
Crothers: ISU’s liaison would also be a good information person.
Adjournment